Creality CR-10 MAX + Supervolcano

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  1. CVGERPP

    CVGERPP Member

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    Hi folks,

    we are very happy with our Creality CR-10 MAX but the possible printing speed with bigger nozzles +0,8mm is limited because of the weak hotend.

    So let´s take a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

    Our plan is to add the supervolcano to the CR-10 max.

    Our aim is the fastest way to print a large number of not so smal parts in a effective way on one printer. (for a start)
    Like 50 parts with 350g each. 20 parts 750g each and so on. (in limited time)
    Perfect printquality is not that important.

    As backup* we also have a prusa i3 mks3 with MMU-Kit (MMU is not working well...s3d). A Creality CR10s pro v2 is also purchased.

    We work with s3d on all printers and print PLA and PETG.

    But befor purchasing some fancy e3d stuff I need some help to choose the right components.

    QUESTIONS:

    #1
    The CR-10 max has a 750W 24V power supply for the heated bed (450x450mm - 100°C) and the hotend.
    Is there any need for a additional supply with the supervolcano?

    #2
    We have the choice between these following scenarios:

    a) supervolcano + standard creality bowden + V6
    b) supervolcano + e3d hemera bowden + V6
    c) supervolcano + e3d hemera direct drive
    d) supervolcano + e3d titan aero
    e) supervolcano + e3d titan aqua

    My favorite is,...
    a) because it´s cheap and light on the hotend carrier
    b) because it´s accurate and maybe the lightest way of direct drive besides the aqua

    I like the titan aqua idea but haven´t seen the benefit on community projects yet. (in relation to expenditure)

    What would be your choice for a update budget of ~350€

    *Pimp a running printer can take longer than expected...

    best regards from germany
    Philipp
     
  2. Daniel Rock

    Daniel Rock Well-Known Member
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    Hi Phillip,

    For a Bowden I would recommend the V6 + Super Volcano and Hemera for the extruder, this would give you the extrusion power needed for the Super Volcano (it's very unlikely the stock extruder will have enough force to use the SuperVolcano with)

    For a direct drive extruder, I would recommend the Super Volcano and Hemera.

    Titan Aqua is for heated build chambers (providing they don't reach more than 80°C)
     
  3. CVGERPP

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    Hi Daniel,

    thank you for your answer.
    We have think about it and try the Hemera direct with the super volcano. At the moment our Prusa prints faster (mm³/s) in some usecases than our CR10 Max (with 0,8mm nozzle) because of that hotend limitations.

    Would you chose 1,75mm or 3mm filament for high speed printing with 0,8/1,0mm nozzle? (PLA / PETG)

    Our CR-10s pro v2 will arrive next days. We purchase the parts after the first prints with it.

    best regards
    Philipp
     
  4. CVGERPP

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    Actual plan:
    We will purchase Hemera direct 1,75mm with supervolcano and take a 150-200W meanwell powersupply instead of the standard 75W into the e-box.

    best regards
    Philipp
     
  5. CVGERPP

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    Parts were delivered. I have had the SSR forgotten... -> purchased...

    Have done some drawing:

    comp_22.jpg comp_333.jpg comp_11111.jpg

    Parts will be machined out of aluminium by lasercutting and cnc bending.

    We have checked all hemera parts for any QM misery but it seems ok.
    Cutting M3 threads for the fan was the only modification till yet.

    ciao
     
    #5 CVGERPP, Feb 16, 2020
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  6. angelos

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    Hi! How has this set up worked so far? I am also considering to get the Hemera Kit (extruder + hot end) and 0.8, 1.00 mm nozzles for my CR10S to try to increase the print speed but I am not sure whether to stay at 1.75 filament sizes or switch to 3 mm.
     

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