E3d V6 on Rostock Max V2 PID Autotune Fail

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  1. Terratian

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    I have been receiving help on the seemecnc forums, however, since the support, there is starting to become counter intuitive (wrapping the e3d heatsink with silicon heat tape to prevent melting the fan) I thought it necessary to go to the genuine e3d community for help.
    I have replaced the original thermistor, updated ext0 temp sensor value to 8 , the only time i can get a successful pid auto tune curve is when i take the fan off the heatsink and reduce the temperature max to 128 (m303 s128). Can someone please offer me some explanations as to what's going on with my e3d, I don't want to destroy another thermistor and fan shroud.
     
  2. PsyVision

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    Can you post some photos of your setup so we can see whether it is assembled correctly? There shouldn't be a need for any tape or other modifications to do a successful PID tune.

    Also, are you doing the PID tune via a tool that reports the temperature change on a graph, if so can you post a screenshot of the graph after an attempt?
     
  3. Terratian

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    I was searching for a tool to help with the auto tune that also does a graph output of results, all that I find was repetiers firmware configuration tool for version 0.92.9 this doesn't seem correct to me. At seemecnc forum where I have also been seeking assistance in this issue, I was given a link to the YouTube video
    where the stock hot end sent with the Rostock max is wrapped with self-fusing silicone tape to keep the fan from cooling the hotend. At this point the heat sink above the hotend on my E3d is getting as hot as the heating block. Also, my pid tests are failing in matter controls (m303 s200) I am considering getting a successful result by lowering the eeprom max pid temp to 128, however, the last time I did this after updating my temp curve in the firmware I continued to melt fans and thermistors.
    here is an output from the terminal command (m303 s200) ( very long string of text) of my autotune at 128 max temp in the eeprom, I do not know where to find a graphical output program to perform a pid tune, where do i find this software?

    ->M303 S200

    <-ok 0
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    <-Info:pID Autotune start
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    <-
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    <-
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    <-
    ->M105

    <-T:185.39 B:25.24 B@:0 @:255
    <-
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    <-
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    <-
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    <-T:185.96 B:25.24 B@:0 @:255
    <-
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    <-
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    <-
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    <-
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    <-
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    <-
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    <-
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    <-
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    <-
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    <-
    ->M105

    <-T:192.50 B:25.24 B@:0 @:255
    <-
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    <-
    <-T:193.06 B:25.24 B@:0 @:255
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    <-
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    <-
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    <-
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    <-
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    <-
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    <-
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    <-
    <-T:196.94 B:25.24 B@:0 @:255
    <-
    <-T:196.81 B:25.24 B@:0 @:255
    <-
    <-T:197.36 B:25.24 B@:0 @:255
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    <-
    <-T:199.58 B:25.24 B@:0 @:0
    <-
    ->M105

    <-T:199.31 B:25.24 B@:0 @:0
    <-
    <-T:199.72 B:25.24 B@:0 @:0
    <-
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    <-
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    <-
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    <-
    <-T:194.86 B:25.24 B@:0 @:254
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    <-T:197.78 B:25.24 B@:0 @:254
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    <-T:198.47 B:25.24 B@:0 @:254
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    <-T:199.31 B:25.24 B@:0 @:254
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    <-T:199.44 B:25.24 B@:0 @:0
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    <-T:199.72 B:25.24 B@:0 @:0
    <-
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    <-
    <- bias: 204 d: 50 min: 194.72 max: 200.51
    <-
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    <-
    ->M105

    <-T:197.36 B:25.24 B@:0 @:254
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    <-
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    <-
    <-T:198.75 B:25.24 B@:0 @:154
    <-
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    <-
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    <-
    <- bias: 230 d: 24 min: 195.28 max: 201.36
    <-
    <-T:200.00 B:25.24 B@:0 @:254
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    <-
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    <-
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    <-
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    <-
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    <-
    <- bias: 224 d: 30 min: 198.89 max: 201.02
    <-
    <- Ku: 17.95 Tu: 8.08
    <-
    <- Classic PID
    <-
    <- Kp: 10.77
    <-
    <- Ki: 2.67
    <-
    <- Kd: 10.87
    <-
    <-T:199.86 B:25.24 B@:0 @:254
    <-
    ->M105

    <-T:200.00 B:25.24 B@:0 @:254
    <-
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    <-
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    <-
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    <-
    <-T:200.85 B:25.24 B@:0 @:194
    <-
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    <-
    <-T:202.03 B:25.24 B@:0 @:194
    <-
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    <-
    <-T:200.85 B:25.24 B@:0 @:194
    <-
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    <-
    <-T:201.19 B:25.24 B@:0 @:194
    <-
    <-T:200.85 B:25.24 B@:0 @:194
    <-
    <- bias: 202 d: 52 min: 199.44 max: 202.54
    <-
    <- Ku: 21.37 Tu: 20.58
    <-
    <- Classic PID
    <-
    <- Kp: 12.82
    <-
    <- Ki: 1.25
    <-
    <- Kd: 32.98
    <-
    <-T:200.68 B:25.24 B@:0 @:254
    <-
    <-T:200.34 B:25.24 B@:0 @:254
    <-
    <-T:200.34 B:25.24 B@:0 @:254
    <-
    <-T:200.17 B:25.24 B@:0 @:150
    <-
    <-T:200.51 B:25.24 B@:0 @:150
    <-
    <-T:200.68 B:25.24 B@:0 @:150
    <-
    <-T:200.34 B:25.24 B@:0 @:150
    <-
    <-T:200.51 B:25.24 B@:0 @:150
    <-
    <-T:200.17 B:25.24 B@:0 @:150
    <-
    <- bias: 181 d: 73 min: 199.72 max: 202.20
    <-
    <- Ku: 37.46 Tu: 8.40
    <-
    <- Classic PID
    <-
    <- Kp: 22.48
    <-
    <- Ki: 5.35
    <-
    <- Kd: 23.61
    <-
    <-Info:pID Autotune finished ! Place the Kp, Ki and Kd constants in the Configuration.h or EEPROM
     
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  4. PsyVision

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    I'm still not clear how this is the case? Looking at the v6 on a Rostock on Google Images it appears you still attach the cooling fan, I presume you have done that? The only reason I can see for applying tape (kapton etc) is to prevent a print cooling fan from cooling the nozzle too much. THis shouldnt be an issue during a PID tune though.

    What thermistor type do you actually have from E3D? I am presuming that when the printer is turned on from cold the temperature is reported about room temperature? (i.e. choice 8 is correct)
     
  5. Terratian

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    I used the thermistor sent to me by Matterhackers with the e3d. my nozzle temp is 35 c while it sits after pid. I updated my previous comment to reflect output of pid routine. The tape suggested to be wrapped around the block is not kapton tape, it is self-fusing silicone tape (stretch and seal by nashua). Wrapping this tape around the block supposedly keeps the heatsink from getting heated by the element to the point that it melts the fan shroud.
     

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    Here is a video of the issues I'm currently having.
     
  7. PsyVision

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    It looks like you just need to do a PID tune to me to allow it to better achieve the target temperature. I don't know if that's done differently using repetier to marlin, M303 g-code.
     

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