New Titan integrated heatsink?

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  1. Videblu

    Videblu New Member

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    e3d teased an integrated heatsink for the titan a few days ago in Thomas Sanladerer's interview. Just curious what people think, maybe a rough estimate of when it'll be ready? This year maybe?
     
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    I didn't see it, but why would an extruder need a heatsink?
     
  3. Jasons_BigBox

    Jasons_BigBox Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I thought the same thing!

    If the whole Titan was metal then sure, the whole thing would act to draw heat from the motor. The only thing I can see is that the sink would reduce dramatically the temperature of the motor shaft IF it got hot. That might help with expansion and movement of the parts but I'm not convinced.

    Surely more efficient to cool the motor case? Doesn't have to reduce the back clearance, could be mounted on the top?
     
  4. Springfield-Jack

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    If I've understood it correctly, the new heat sink takes the place of the circular finned heat sink and the hot end is screwed to it directly making for a much more compact unit.
     
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    Oh you're right. I missed that watching it the first time. Very interesting.
     
  6. Spoon Unit

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    Cool. Here it is.

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    A compsletely redesgned hot end
     
  8. Jasons_BigBox

    Jasons_BigBox Well-Known Member

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    Woah! I didn't spot the heating block at the bottom. Yes, the whole unit is a combined Titan and hot end.

    That is an exciting option, would increase build size by quite a bit.
     
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    Honestly I do not see much improvement and reminds me of several hot end from china (except for the titan being a better extruder)
     
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    Do remind that this is experimental and may not make it to be a final product
     
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    Not printing so well based on the state of the benchy underneath it either :)

    Also needs something to stop air vortices exiting the heatsink from interfering with the print (it's a level of cooling airflow you can't control as the fan is always 100%) The current E3D design manages that quite well.
     
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    The air will exit parallel to the build surface so should not be so different to the current design. vlcsnap-2016-11-20-12h30m54s408.png
     
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    Seems like the air should be driven up and away ideally
     
  14. EASI3D

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    "Soon, we're coming out with a heat sink on the lid", looks likes its real product due soon and an upgrade to existing Titans, I guess the v6 block remains the same but a new heat break gets cooled by the heatsink/lid. A bit later Josh briefly mentions the "next generation hot-end"
     
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    Watch Sanjay's face when Josh says it (6:09).I'm fairly sure that microexpression means:
    :)
     
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    Looks expensive, but delicious!
     
  17. markoaurelije

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    @Greg Holloway
    This Titan with integrated heatsink on its lid... as it is more compact then current desing, are you thinking of possible BigBox Direct IDEX mod with these Titans? I really like the IDEX Bowden design as it requires minimal or no changes to the frame, but I'd like Direct extrusion.
     
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    Ok what the printing max temperature of that thing any idea? I was planing mount two titan on my mega prussa i3 but now maybe i will wait if that thing can print at 280 c. Any idea ?
     
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    I can't imagine them bothering with this unless print temps are not constrained. I would expect a full v6 heat range.
     
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