IN DEVELOPMENT SETTINGS Clever3D PEI coated aluminum bed

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  1. Miasmictruth

    Miasmictruth Well-Known Member

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    Anyone from the US ordering these, it shows that they want almost more to ship it then the product is worth. Or am I filling something out wrong.
     
  2. Henry feldman

    Henry feldman Well-Known Member

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    I saw that too, hence why I haven't ordered. Maybe @elmoret can stock (or bulk order) for the BB owners here in the US?
     
  3. Miasmictruth

    Miasmictruth Well-Known Member

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    So 2 confirmed orders, I wonder how many we can get to make it worth while for him and what he would have to charge. 3 if you update both of your machines.
     
  4. Spoon Unit

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    I see that sometimes, depending on the material used. Following guidance from @mike01hu I just use a kitchen paper towel with some Methylated spirit on it and it seems to come off just fine and also fully cleans the surface nicely for the next print.
     
  5. Henry feldman

    Henry feldman Well-Known Member

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    I might do it. Although the glass beds in some ways are easier to switch over
     
  6. Arcson

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    I would also like to get the bed plate. Sign me up for an order, possibly two.
     
  7. Miasmictruth

    Miasmictruth Well-Known Member

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    True, I have two for the one machine so I can swap whenever nessessary. Not entirely sure what the big advantage really is, Thermal conductivity?

    On the other hand, can't we just swap the aluminum for the glass if we need to, we will just have to relevel
     
  8. Spoon Unit

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    I don't think there's any argument to made for ease of switch over. In fact, I haven't even removed the new bed from the machine once since it arrived, so it's almost a moot point anyway. Once you get things working with it, why switch it out at all. Cleaning with a bit of spirit can be done in situ and there's no coating to be applied. Mind you, I can see that might not apply if you find you do have trouble with it and need to switch for, say, nylon (which I've never tried yet). That said, the bed is as easy to remove and replace as glass. It's a perfect fit. There's a pro and con to be added too. The edge is recessed to permit the clip to be attached and be completely clear of the print surface. That's the pro. The con is that, if you were banking on printing out beyond 300 or under 0 (maybe your print head gives you space) then you'll lose that. The printable surface of the PEI bed is a full 300x200 though, so you're not losing anything from the machine specs directly. The other main benefit is the PEI coating, which is akin to having Kapton tape stick ever-so-carefully to your glass bed. This really assists printing and means you need no other bed prep.

    I'm actually blown away by the bed. For me, I wish I'd got one sooner.
     
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  9. Miasmictruth

    Miasmictruth Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the input. I want it but still though 50 dollars just to ship the bed is a hard pill to swallow.

    Just out of curiosity, would it not be possible to flip the bed if you needed those last few mms. I thought I read both sides are PEI coated.
     
  10. Spoon Unit

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    Yeh - good point - believe you're right

    Sounds a lot. I think shipping was £18 here, which is what ... $25 depending on when you measure it. Maybe take a break to Europe at some point and have it shipped to your hotel :)
     
  11. potti5

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    To Finland shipping was 18€
     
  12. Miasmictruth

    Miasmictruth Well-Known Member

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    Guess they just dont want americans haveing a nice print bed lol.
     
  13. Spoon Unit

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    yeh, probably was euro rather than £
     
  14. elmoret

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    I'll reach out to them and see what I can do.
     
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  15. Miasmictruth

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    Awesome, I would say let us know before you pull the trigger, right now I think it comes out after shipping to he around 100, about half of which is shipping.

    So guess what I am saying is unless you can cut that over all by a good amount to be closer to the base price probably not worth it.

    Thanks for looking into it!
     
  16. markoaurelije

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    Ok, this stuff is amazing.
    Just printed a piece with pretty large surface on the bed, and it sticks perfectly on clean bed, no warping at all during print. After it cooled, it slipped right off the bed. Only static electricity holding it down :cool:
    Previously I was having warping issues printing the same piece on glass bed with glue and/or hairspray.

    ColorFabb HT
    Bed Temp: 105°C
    Nozzle Temp: 263°C
    Clean Bed - clever3D aluminuim black PEI
     
  17. Spoon Unit

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    It's so cool :). Definitely an enabler for an automated part scraping system.
     
  18. Miasmictruth

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    Getting any kind of response back from Cleaver3D yet?
     
  19. elmoret

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    Nope, no reply.
     
  20. Miasmictruth

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    Bummer :/

    Thanks for trying though!
     

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