Super volcano for cr10 s5

Discussion in 'Volcano' started by Kristoffer Ørum, Mar 19, 2019.

  1. Kristoffer Ørum

    Kristoffer Ørum New Member

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    Dear all,
    I am looking to upgrade my cr-10 s5 with a super volcano . I already have an all metal extruder installed. My question is What component's do I need to purchase & print? And is there a guide somewhere on the upgrade process? How long would an upgrade take?
    I'd be gratefully for any pointers or help
    Atb
    Kristoffer
     
  2. Antoine

    Antoine Well-Known Member
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    Not quite sure what all metal extruder you are referring to, but I assume that you are still using the CR-10 in it's bowden configuration. In this case you will need a complete SuperVolcano hotend, which means that you will need both a SuperVolcano hot side and a V6 cold side.

    Hot side:
    Block, nozzle and sensor: https://e3d-online.com/the-e3d-supervolcano (select 1.75mm, 12V)
    Break: https://e3d-online.com/v6-heat-break

    Cold side:
    Heatsink: https://e3d-online.com/v6-heatsink-1-75mm-universal
    Duct: https://e3d-online.com/v6-fan-duct
    Fan: https://e3d-online.com/dc-fans (select 12V, black, 30x30x10mm)
    Screws: https://e3d-online.com/screws-for-plastic-3mm

    However, you could also just buy a V6 (https://e3d-online.com/v6-all-metal-hotend 1.75mm, Bowden, 12V, None) which you can convert to SuperVolcano, allowing you to print big parts with the SuperV and detailed prints with the V6.

    The assembly guide is here: https://e3d-online.dozuki.com/Guide/Super+Volcano+Assembly/82?lang=en
    This guide is not printer specific, and will vary depending on your configuration.

    The ultimate setup is to mount the SuperVoclano hot side to a Titan Aero, giving you a lightweight, direct drive with 3:1 gear ratio. This is the setup we have on a CR10-S5 here at E3D (along with Duet electronics :) )
     
  3. Roelf Daling

    Roelf Daling New Member

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    @Antoine I'm on the same mission as Kirstoffer. My question surrounds the Bowden vs direct setup. Let's forget about flexible filament for this also I'm planning on 0.8 - 1.2 size nozzles with PLA and ABS.

    I know you recommended the Titan Aero because of the 3:1 and it's your product that you know works well with this setup. But does the SuperVolcano actually require more pressure inside its long flow nozzle or will gravity, long heatzone and medium bowden pressure be enough?

    Is this true: More material = larger hotend = more friction = harder working extruder ? Or is it actually the opposite? Like mentioned in this comment about a bowden + volcano setup here on reddit "There is definitely less pressure in the bowden line, both due to the larger nozzle and bigger melt zone"

    Side question, will you guys manufacture a X Nozzle for the SuperVolcano?

    Any advice, links or papers on the flow properties of PLA and ABS inside extrusion systems will be appreciated.
    Many thanks
    Roelf
     
  4. Kenneth Terry

    Kenneth Terry New Member

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    The ultimate setup is to mount the SuperVoclano hot side to a Titan Aero, giving you a lightweight, direct drive with 3:1 gear ratio. This is the setup we have on a CR10-S5 here at E3D (along with Duet electronics.

    Please excuse my ignorance, but I am an extreme Nuby... I would like to get everything you mentioned previously for the CR-10 S5. I don't know exactly what I need to purchase for the above referenced set up. Can you please help me out with that.
     
  5. Old_Tafr

    Old_Tafr Well-Known Member

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    Is there also a power supply issue in going from say 20 w or 30 w heater to 80 watts? At 12 volts you go from 2.5 amps (for 30 watts) to 6.7 amps for an 80 watt heater.

    At 24 volts 30 watt is 1.25 amps, 80 watts is 3.4 amps

    Higher volts simply means lower current and not so thick wires to the heater, but regardless of voltage the power supply requirement has gone up a lot.
     

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