ToolChanging Extruded Aluminum E3D BB3D2?

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  1. mhe

    mhe Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the heads-up, updated!
     
  2. mhe

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    Will it happen before new year? It's been quite silent for a while now.
     
  3. Rob Heinzonly

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    I think not. The Beta 30 will be shipping within a few weeks, and if I recall correctly, production will start after beta 30 is finished (8 weeks).
     
  4. mhe

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    I was just wondering because Beta 30 seems to have been right around the corner in late August already but since the Q&A it has been pretty quiet. Currently have lots of idle time on my hands so I would have loved to build and play around with that machine.

    Edit: Just saw that they announced shipping of the Beta 30 machines on Twitter. Damn I wish I was among the recipients...
     
  5. Rob Heinzonly

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    Beta 30 is really happening now. This two guys are now posting video's, pictures and experience. Looking good :)
    Tony Atkens.
    Joseph Spanier.
     
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  6. mhe

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    Great, I am currently finishing up all my making projects right now so I can give the Toolchanger the attention it deserves once I can finally get my hands on it. I wish it was time already...
     
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  7. mhe

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    So close I can almost smell it...

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    I’m guessing brexit will add som tax for us outside Britain. Maybe I should order everything else before March...
     
  10. mhe

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    Good point, it would be very nice if we can order our stuff before we get hit with custom fees.
     
  11. Paul Seccombe

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    I'm guessing that others who paid a deposit have seen the email with the latest news. Am I the only one who was shocked by the current estimated price for the kit? I know this is a full kit of everything, but still.....over £3k including VAT!
    Afraid I can't justify this price for a home hobby environment. Guess I'll be asking for my deposit back (which they originally said you could do). Shame.
     
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  12. Rob Heinzonly

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    I'm planning to strip my good old BigBox for this machine. If my calculations are correct, you need £1800 for the bare Tool changer (Motion-System, X, Y and Z axes including frame, Tool-changing Mechanism + 4 docks). I may need one mirrored Titan,and possibly also go for the new heated bed...

    [EDIT]Based on the E3D blog of August last year, it could be even £1500 for a bare system
     
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    I am shocked too. That price is too much for me. I hope that motion system is much more cheaper. Probably i going to also ask my deposit back but let see first what they get out.
     
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    Well, it's more than I'd originally guesstimated based on the original numbers, though not a lot more. Still planning on getting one, and will likely go for the full kit, but it will delay other projects. In the end, this is a hobby for me, as are the other projects I referred to, so when the final pricing comes out and we can actually place orders it comes down to 'can I afford it and do I want it enough' - so far it's 'yes', but it's going to be pushing it. Getting very close to the tipping point on that for me.

    I could undoubtedly cannibalise my bigbox and save a fair bit of money, but I want to keep it - for now at least. I've had a lot of fun with the bigbox (and my old i3 clone, and the Ender 3), and learned a lot too, and I expect to get at least as much fun out of the toolchanger, probably more. I have several things I want to try with it, so it should keep me busy for quite a while.

    I guess it means another year without either a milling machine or a laser cutter - oh well!

    Final decision will be when we see the final price and are able to place orders :)
     
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    Put me down for being surprised. I worry about e3d putting on extra staff for the volume on the back of pre-pays. I for one pre-paid and will be dropping out at this price.
     
  16. mhe

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    I'll have to sell my fully upgraded Bigbox IDEX to afford that. And even then it is kinda steep. But then again we are maybe "spoiled" by BigBox' amazing price/performance ratio. For he money of the toolchanger you can get good CNC stuff and machine most of if yourself. The pure material cost is pretty down to earth. The question is how much they charge us for the preassembly of the motion system. I guess most of us would be quite able to put that together ourselves if the manual is any good. Between work periods I have plenty of time on my hand so I'd rather invest money than time into this. We all know it took ages to assemble the Bigboxes, so I don't care about the new thing being doable quickly.

    But I am not backing out of it at this point, I just wish they would make it more cost effective. Especially since the quoted price was british pounds excluding VAT. But I will see it through to the end because this thing is the future.
     
  17. Rob Heinzonly

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    There's a new post with the pricing breakdown :). I will be using most of my Bigbox parts (Duet, titans) for this new device.
     
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  18. mhe

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    I can get more out of a good bigbox sale than I can save from harvesting parts, so that's the way to go here. There is always a way.
     
  19. mhe

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    Seems like somebody did a Toolchanger based on the E3D design with a non-cantilever bed:
     
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  20. mhe

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    Zesty seem to have solved the Bowden + Flexibles conundrum:


    Have to get one of these onto my Toolchanger once I have it. This modularity will open up so many possibilities...
     

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