IN DEVELOPMENT z-axis ball screws

Discussion in 'Guides, Mods, and Upgrades' started by JesperJuul, Oct 25, 2016.

  1. eca

    eca Well-Known Member

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    Any news on this?
     
  2. JesperJuul

    JesperJuul Well-Known Member

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    Yep got them and they are darn pretty, but sadly I haven't had time to take a look yet, but I definitely will then the Christmas dust settles.
     
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    JesperJuul Well-Known Member

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    ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

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  4. eca

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    Looking good, where did you order them and how much did they cost?
     
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    JesperJuul Well-Known Member

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    robotdigg and I must say I am really satisfied with them, they have zero play and runs perfectly smooth.
     

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    And how do the sides of your parts look when you study them critically? And compared to before?
     
  7. eca

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    Okay, so I pulled the trigger on this upgrade, my sides are horrible due to one of my z screws being... well not straight at all.
    What did you set your z-steps at?
     
  8. Miasmictruth

    Miasmictruth Well-Known Member

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    Maybe I missed it but where are you sourcing the parts? I am always interested in Bigbox Upgrades :)
     
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    RobotDigg.com
     
  10. R Design

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    Have been looking forward to a report on this since the end of the summer.

    I have the general impression that the best Z axis results come from printers either with small printbeds (eg Ultimaker) or those with an H-configuration (eg Prusa Mk2).

    If @JesperJuul isn't here jumping up and down with excitement, maybe means that ultrasmooth and precise ballscrew stepper shafts didn't lead to a radical improvement in the sides of his printed parts, only to a reduction of his bank balance?
     
  11. eca

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    Or he hasn't installed them yet
     
  12. JesperJuul

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    Hi guys
    I'm really sorry if you have been waiting on my 2 cents on the ball screws, but the case is (like @eca is pointing out) that I never got to install them.

    Short after I received the screws one of my buddys really needed my big box and was willing to give me a good overhead for it, and since I have other printer and he needed a well tuned machine for his business, I gave it up.

    At the moment it is not possible to get a new Bigbox so I'm kinda stuck with the project... BUT I just received another screw that is going into my first printer (solidoodle 4) that I'm rebuilding at the moment.

    I will update once I get it running.
     
  13. Miasmictruth

    Miasmictruth Well-Known Member

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    Your a good friend, not sure I could give mine up :)
     
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    JesperJuul Well-Known Member

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    I'm really close to just cut one self on the lasercutter and then try to source the parts myself.

    For now I'm concentrating on finishing the solidoodle. I just got the ballscrew in and damn It has stiffened the z-axis a lot, really excited to test it out.
     

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    Miasmictruth Well-Known Member

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    If you do, consider upgrading the frame for IDEX, trying to figure out the best way to do that right now
     
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    consider turning the bed through 90 degrees like BCN3D

    of course that will mean moving the ballscrews ;)
     
  17. Miasmictruth

    Miasmictruth Well-Known Member

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    I must be blind I don't see the balls screws any more, did they stop carrying them? I swear I saw them in the last week or so.

    .....

    Never mind I am just blind

    http://www.robotdigg.com/category/20/page/2
     
  18. R Design

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    Turns out Richrap is a ballscrew fan.

    Here he talks about his dream printer:

    1. Richard Horne: If that dream 3D printer was not just a one-off for me, but actually designed as a mass-production kit? - then I would use many more solid CNC style parts in the construction - Probably high-speed but small scale ball-screws, high-torque motors and a very solid frame. I would make it Cartesian but with a gantry style configuration so almost any type of surface/object could be printed on. I don't like moving print beds so all three X,Y and Z axis need to move quickly and precisely, with as low noise as possible.

      http://pastebin.com/VbVaRkUy
     
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  19. eca

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    Be careful, I just ordered the ones that were posted here and they are actually bigger than the original ones. I will have to see if I can drill out the holes, if there is enough material there for that. Apparently, the 1204 stands for 12mm ball screw with 4mm pitch. So to have the same size a 0804 would have been a drop in fit with only changes to the steps being necessary.
     
  20. Miasmictruth

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    If you havent aleady made the switch, you should pick a couple bench mark prints formthe before and after. Also I would try and use the same materials so you (and we) can see the effects.
     

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